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Title: New computer? (Gaming)
Post by: Willdy on November 28, 2012, 12:09:04 AM
Posted before but here we go again....

Hey guys,

I'm looking for suggestions about getting a new computer as I have had my current one for around 5 years (parts have been upgraded since then) and it has already had several near death experiences.

It would predominantly be used for gaming but it would also be used for college work which means it would need to be able to run office programs, Photoshop and Dreamweaver effectively.

I am looking to spend in the region of £500, but would be interested in increasing this budget if I need too. This budget is purely based on the computer hardware and a case, I have a separate budget which would be spent on things such as new monitor, as mouse and a keyboard.

Thanks!
Title: Re: New computer? (Gaming)
Post by: sethcaron on November 28, 2012, 12:44:31 AM
I am not sure since I am not in europe and would suggest a windows 7 since windows 8 looks kinda meh. I dunno but find a good one ?
Title: Re: New computer? (Gaming)
Post by: Willdy on November 28, 2012, 01:40:32 AM
I am not sure since I am not in europe and would suggest a windows 7 since windows 8 looks kinda meh. I dunno but find a good one ?
I planned to get windows 7 :p
Title: Re: New computer? (Gaming)
Post by: redead on November 28, 2012, 02:08:27 AM
Sager custom built are pretty good. They normally show if a big thing (like a new processor) will come out on there next model. But most of the time you can get there best one right then cause normally there isnt anything big coming out.

I have had only experience with laptops and since your doing college work then it might be good. My brother has one and it is an amazing gaming laptop. I'm not sure what the model is called but im sure you can find it on their website.

It was priced 1,300$ and an equal laptop from Alienware was 2,100$. From apple it would be 2,600$ without a graphics card (and the graphics card is amazing).

So go look at Sager's website and see what you find.
Title: Re: New computer? (Gaming)
Post by: Jaythorpe on November 28, 2012, 07:16:35 AM
 i will price you one up after work
but the specs would be

6 core
8 gb ram
750w psu
hd 7870 or crossfire 7850
powercool avenger (Case)
Cached Ssd 64 gb


if there is anything to salvage from your old computer it will help

Keep your hard drive just reformat
Title: Re: New computer? (Gaming)
Post by: Willdy on November 28, 2012, 10:17:01 AM
Thanks guys, I'll have a look at the options avaliable to me once I get home from college. My computer is dead at the moment though - lucky I bought a Nexus 7 about two weeks ago? XD

@Redead - Seems more than I want to pay, and I would rather a computer than a laptop

@Jaythrope - You were helpful last time, and I'm sorry for making you repeat yourself :c
Title: Re: New computer? (Gaming)
Post by: sethcaron on November 28, 2012, 12:23:06 PM
I am not sure since I am not in europe and would suggest a windows 7 since windows 8 looks kinda meh. I dunno but find a good one ?
I planned to get windows 7 :p

Oh...
welp I dunno and seems you found the computer you want ?

EDIT: seems like you found the right computer. Ima stop posting on dis thread now.
Title: Re: New computer? (Gaming)
Post by: Jaythorpe on November 28, 2012, 12:42:43 PM
AMD FX-6 6100 Black Edition 6 Core 3.3Ghz Socket AM3+ 8MB L3 Cache Retail Boxed Processor
£84.66
Gigabyte GA-970A-DS3 Socket AM3+ 7.1 Channel Audio ATX Motherboard         
£49.92
Crucial 8GB (2x4GB) DDR3 1600Mhz Ballistix Sport Memory Kit CL9 (9-9-9-24) 1.5V   
£29.04
Sapphire HD 7850 OC Edition 1GB GDDR5 Dual DVI HDMI DisplayPort PCI-E Graphics Card
£149.99
Xenta 700W 12cm Fan PSU - 1x PCI-E 2x SATA (just a chepo can get better)
£31.97
Coolermaster CM 690 II Adavance - Special Edition White   
£69.99
 
 total inc vat:   £429.57

That was just off ebuyer can probly find parts cheaper off other sites
 £70 spare for whaterver

Have you tested your hard drive to see if it still works?

anyway back to work dinner break back on about 4 ish

Title: Re: New computer? (Gaming)
Post by: Willdy on November 28, 2012, 01:07:09 PM
I'm considering getting a new one, or maybe putting the operating system on to a seperate drive? If I get a new harddrive then I would happily increase the budget a little. I believe that might be the cause of my computer problems at the moment.

A friend of mine was looking at computer parts before coming accross http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=FS-253-OE - what do you think?
Title: Re: New computer? (Gaming)
Post by: Jaythorpe on November 28, 2012, 04:20:42 PM
its OK if you don't want the hassle of installing the components but the computer its self is worth about £390

These are better and lower price
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/AMD78-FX-4170-4-2Ghz-Gaming-Pc-Computer-2Tb-8Gb-Ddr3-ATI-HD-7850-2GB-Vantage-/110962339468?pt=UK_Computing_DesktopPCs&hash=item19d5deee8c

or

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/G4-VB-AMD-QUAD-CORE-GAMING-PC-COMPUTER-1TB-HDD-8GB-MEM-NVIDIA-GT520-1GB-GRAPHICS-/390439364056?pt=UK_Computing_DesktopPCs&hash=item5ae7ffe5d8
With this i would sell the graphic card what comes with it for about £20
And replace with
http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=GX-049-HS&campaign=pcm/googleshopping&pup_c=gs

Goes over budget a but would be able to play any game throw at it
Title: Re: New computer? (Gaming)
Post by: Blueberry on November 28, 2012, 08:37:46 PM
http://www.geforce.com/optimize/guides/how-to-build-a-kick-ass-crysis-2-pc-for-under-600#1


Also, some of my specs:
AMD Phenom(tm) II x6 10655T Processor
Ram: 8100MB
Video card: AMD RADEON HD 6450

Anything here i should upgrade?
Title: Re: New computer? (Gaming)
Post by: Jaythorpe on November 28, 2012, 09:03:55 PM
Depending on what games you play blueberry
But if i was you i would upgrade your graphic card
Title: Re: New computer? (Gaming)
Post by: Willdy on November 28, 2012, 09:32:25 PM
How about these? Gonna cost me £450

(http://img15.imageshack.us/img15/3148/specsw.png)

Opinions?
Title: Re: New computer? (Gaming)
Post by: Jaythorpe on November 28, 2012, 09:36:03 PM
16gb ram is useless and will be for a long time


The hd 6670 is outdated
The best i can find
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Eight-Core-3-1Ghz-AMD-FX-8120-8GB-1TB-6570-Desktop-PC-Gaming-Computer-/200839161002?pt=UK_Computing_DesktopPCs&hash=item2ec2f264aa

and then

http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=GX-306-SP&groupid=701&catid=56&subcat=411
£480

£30 extra but the graphic card is about 400% faster
Title: Re: New computer? (Gaming)
Post by: nonSENSE on November 28, 2012, 09:48:17 PM
Not sure where the obsession with AMD Bulldozer CPUs is coming from, but I'd rather get a decent i5.
Title: Re: New computer? (Gaming)
Post by: Blueberry on November 28, 2012, 10:51:00 PM
What about this? http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130838&nm_mc=OTC-Channel&cm_mmc=OTC-channel-_-Video+Cards-_-EVGA-_-14130838&srccode=cii_7240466&cpncode=26-9655565&DEPA=0&refer=channel&CMP=OTC- (I'm interested in it)
Title: Re: New computer? (Gaming)
Post by: Willdy on November 28, 2012, 11:19:22 PM
Okay, now I'm just confused c:

16gb ram is useless and will be for a long time
What makes it useless?

On the subject of processers,

What makes i5 so much more appealing than one with more cores, and a higher memory cache? And in some cases, a faster processing speed?
Title: Re: New computer? (Gaming)
Post by: nonSENSE on November 28, 2012, 11:23:01 PM
What makes it useless?

You will not get into a situation where you will ever max out the 16GB. I have 8GB and I don't even use it it's full potential (while using Photoshop, Eclipse, listening to music and having gmod running in the background).

What makes i5 so much more appealing than one with more cores, and a higher memory cache? And in some cases, a faster processing speed?

The fact that it perfomed rather poorly in benchmarks, gaming tests and other reviews even though it is not cheaper than the i5. Theoretical values are not something you should always go by.
Title: Re: New computer? (Gaming)
Post by: redead on November 29, 2012, 01:31:55 AM
Also you might wanna get a Solid-state because they are going down in price with more gigs. Don't get it if you are planning to Store pictures and shit like that. Or you can do what some people and get a solid-state drive for gaming and a hard drive for storing stuff. (i know you said you don't wanna spend a lot, but its just a suggestion).

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820148443&nm_mc=KNC-GoogleAdwords&cm_mmc=KNC-GoogleAdwords-_-pla-_-NA-_-NA

And one just to show you how expensive they can get. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820227797&nm_mc=KNC-GoogleAdwords&cm_mmc=KNC-GoogleAdwords-_-pla-_-NA-_-NA

http://www.memory4less.com/m4l_itemdetail.aspx?itemid=1460423135&rid=93&origin=pla&gclid=COjt_ImE87MCFQeynQodBBkAYQ
Title: Re: New computer? (Gaming)
Post by: dark1 on November 29, 2012, 12:45:35 PM
I really like the gaming computers from Asus. I bought a Asus G60jx about 2 1/2 years ago and its still running like new. If I was to buy another gaming rig it would be a Asus. These are the computer specs I got as of right now.
http://www.cnet.com/laptops/asus-g60jx-rbbx05-16/4507-3121_7-34024579.html

Just keep in mind that computer specs are getting higher and more advanced every year this rig is going on 3 yrs old lol. At the time it was the best computer at Best Buy. Even though I am still very much pleased with it. ;D

Title: Re: New computer? (Gaming)
Post by: Blueberry on November 30, 2012, 01:36:26 AM
Sorry for going off topic, but would this video card http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130838&nm_mc=OTC-Channel&cm_mmc=OTC-channel-_-Video+Cards-_-EVGA-_-14130838&srccode=cii_7240466&cpncode=26-9655565&DEPA=0&refer=channel&CMP=OTC-

It uses (pci express 3.0) be able to fit and be compatible with my motherboard pci express 2.1?
I think it's pci 2.1 because this is my current horrible video card: http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=amd_radeon_hd6450&num=1

All I was wondering was would I be able to replace my old video card with this new one? Thanks  ;) (Yes I know about required voltage). I belive that both pages mention that they are both x16 video cards. ( pci express 2.1x16 and pci express 3.0x16)
Title: Re: New computer? (Gaming)
Post by: Jaythorpe on November 30, 2012, 01:40:41 PM
3.0 pci-e will work in 2.1 pci-e motherboard

The gtx 650 will be faster rthan your current card but will become outdated when newer games come out
I would go for 7850 OverClocked which are around £130 in usa about $170
Title: Re: New computer? (Gaming)
Post by: dark1 on December 07, 2012, 03:02:05 AM
How about these? Gonna cost me £450

(http://img15.imageshack.us/img15/3148/specsw.png)

Opinions?

What company manufactures this computer?
Title: Re: New computer? (Gaming)
Post by: Willdy on December 07, 2012, 10:24:17 AM
How about these? Gonna cost me £450
Opinions?

What company manufactures this computer?

I'll have to get back to you on that one when I am able to check the internet history of my other computer to find out! :P

I know I already told you that on steam, but by posting here it acts as a reminder that I need to do it.
Title: Re: New computer? (Gaming)
Post by: Party Messiah on December 11, 2012, 11:50:47 AM
When are you actually planning on buying this computer?
And why not build it yourself?
Title: Re: New computer? (Gaming)
Post by: Willdy on December 11, 2012, 12:00:24 PM
When are you actually planning on buying this computer?
And why not build it yourself?
A few weeks ago, and why bother? I like the price and the specs.