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Administration => Bans & Appeals => Topic started by: Goobie on June 29, 2015, 10:22:17 AM

Title: Not Really A Ban Request on Master Mark, But Kinda
Post by: Goobie on June 29, 2015, 10:22:17 AM
STEAM_0:1:16156095

Name: Master Mark
SteamID: STEAM_0:1:16156095
Proof: http://imgur.com/h1t1klY,sG2EBCr

Other(optional): I don't want to ban him, because He is very funny and cool, so I don't to ban him, but I am requesting to give my friend (Mr Steal Yo Clams) item back "The Rare Jewel" that he earned from lottery. I got a screenshot of the trade on what happened, but gotta explain. So what happened was that Clams was selling his Rare Jewel and master offered him A Bundle Of Halloween Chat Tags for the Rare Jewel. Well Apperently once the trade was over Master gave him a Skull #2 chat tag with other BAD rares and a 30+ hp jewel. Clams didn't see what happened after the trade and he got very upset. You're probably wondering why he didn't trade it back, but right after the trade, he opened the bundle of the halloween tags and put the skull back on showcase which he didn't mean to. Master Is a cool guy, but when I saw that trade... I felt really really bad for clams, because I've been in a similar situation before. All that I am asking is to Please give back his Rare Jewel that he earned.  :'(

PS Clams told me that he had the bundle already in the trade,but he switched it out with the skull tag which I don't wanna get into that, but I made this request for clams, so they can discuss it in here.
Title: Re: Not Really A Ban Request on Master Mark, But Kinda
Post by: Lazyronda on June 29, 2015, 10:34:48 AM
To post the pictures just go to imgur.com and drag them all onto the site.
Title: Re: Not Really A Ban Request on Master Mark, But Kinda
Post by: Goobie on June 29, 2015, 11:24:50 AM
thx lazy
Title: Re: Not Really A Ban Request on Master Mark, But Kinda
Post by: Master Mark on June 29, 2015, 01:08:47 PM
You forgot the part where I explain the whole switch in chat in like 4 lines of trade chat text, ask him if he's still active in the trade, make the switch, then he says "alright let's do it" then hits double confirm?

Are you serious Goobie?

Plus I wouldn't trade back since I already popped the bundle open.

This happens every other week now.

Let's not mention that he originally wanted to swap the +40 jewel find jewel for a +40 health jewel, so I offered him a +27 health jewel ("a bad jewel"), 3 rare guitars (which he collects), and a bundle which I told him that you'd be interested in potentially trading for which there-in increases his chance of obtaining your jewel which is the one that he wanted in the first place.

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You're probably wondering why he didn't trade it back, but right after the trade, he opened the bundle of the halloween tags and put the skull back on showcase which he didn't mean to

So now you're lying too? I told you over voice chat that I opened it immediately to fill back the item in the display that was missing
Title: Re: Not Really A Ban Request on Master Mark, But Kinda
Post by: FredHerbert on June 29, 2015, 02:16:56 PM
I was on at the time of this happening, and immediately after the trade Clams stated that he did not notice the bundle had been swapped out for a single chat tag, to be honest i'm surprised and disappointed that this wasn't resolved in-game. If your trade with him went anything like our's, the trade chat was spammed with the same blue text that nobody is going to specifically read, everyone just mouses over and checks out the actual items.
Title: Re: Not Really A Ban Request on Master Mark, But Kinda
Post by: Master Mark on June 29, 2015, 02:24:17 PM
I was on at the time of this happening, and immediately after the trade Clams stated that he did not notice the bundle had been swapped out for a single chat tag, to be honest i'm surprised and disappointed that this wasn't resolved in-game. If your trade with him went anything like our's, the trade chat was spammed with the same blue text that nobody is going to specifically read, everyone just mouses over and checks out the actual items.

If they look at the trade chat logs they'll see that I explicitly mentioned how offering the whole bundle itself would be too out of favor for me to make the trade, and that i'd offer just the lone tag plus other items and the jewel instead. I then asked if "he's alive" to signal that he was aware of the trade, then he said "alright lets do it" after I made the swap. If you double confirm after something like that I don't know what else to say.
Title: Re: Not Really A Ban Request on Master Mark, But Kinda
Post by: Goobie on June 29, 2015, 05:33:15 PM
Master The part where you quoted on my thing, I meant that where you opened it immediately, because the showcase was off.
Title: Re: Not Really A Ban Request on Master Mark, But Kinda
Post by: PapaRussia on June 29, 2015, 10:08:04 PM
I'm going to step in before NONsense comes in with the usual, once a trade is accepted you have to go through like 3 "Are you sure you want to do this trade" before the items are exchanged, he made a mistake by not being careful enough. It's Clams fault for not checking during those 3 times.
Title: Re: Not Really A Ban Request on Master Mark, But Kinda
Post by: Pancakes Yo on June 29, 2015, 10:34:07 PM
Master Mark Would not scam.., He has put hundreds if not thousands of hours into Moronyard xD why do you think he would scam over a gem, I Mean yes it Is one of a kind but it will probably be in other lotteries to come. He has got the richest inventory in the game and not to mention his 1.5b cash stack, why would he give it up for a measly little jewel. It was also your friends fault for not checking that it was or was not a chat tag bundle or normal. We do not have any screenshots of your friends trade, seeing if he removed the item or that it was infact a bundle, we only have his word for it.. and of course this is not enough for a ban, (plus he cant get banned as hes a donator), For instance, "LOLCHICKEN_" Got scammed by "Twerking Turtle" as he gave him a few rares for his magic dust that he won on the lottery, this was a obvious scam.. Yet he had no screenshots to prove it. For instance, it is not a scam if someone asks 5m for a tier 1 rare, as he wants this amount of money for it.. Even if it wasn't for the full price, this person still asks for this amount, so we also have no proof that he asked for this. So, He shouldn't be banned because this post is dumb and if mark did swap it, which he 99.9% didn't, You're friend is dumb for not checking for fuck sake.. Not to mention about that double confirmation accept, which he also should of checked, THAT'S WHY THEY ARE THERE!                                   IGN: Master Mark But More Dank
Title: Re: Not Really A Ban Request on Master Mark, But Kinda
Post by: Lazyronda on June 29, 2015, 10:38:15 PM
Master Mark Would not scam..,
heh
Title: Re: Not Really A Ban Request on Master Mark, But Kinda
Post by: nonSENSE on June 29, 2015, 10:44:40 PM
it will probably be in other lotteries to come.
heh
Title: Re: Not Really A Ban Request on Master Mark, But Kinda
Post by: cosco24 on June 29, 2015, 10:45:20 PM
When someone accepts a trade, they have to press 2 different buttons to confirm it.  If you press the first button, and then someone switches an item, it cancels your first confirmation.  You have plenty of time to click the first button, hover over each of the items and make sure they are right, then click the second button.
Title: Re: Not Really A Ban Request on Master Mark, But Kinda
Post by: Pancakes Yo on June 29, 2015, 10:46:22 PM
It fucking will NonSENSE! DONT CRUST MY DREAMS GOD DAMN IT


Also, Not tottaly related but please can you change the donation screen that when you're diamond you and upgrade to jade you get 2 gold bars instead of 4, because 4 is when you donate from nothing whereas if your diamond you also get 2
Title: Re: Not Really A Ban Request on Master Mark, But Kinda
Post by: Pancakes Yo on June 29, 2015, 10:46:44 PM
it will probably be in other lotteries to come.
heh
It fucking will NonSENSE! DONT CRUST MY DREAMS GOD DAMN IT


Also, Not tottaly related but please can you change the donation screen that when you're diamond you and upgrade to jade you get 2 gold bars instead of 4, because 4 is when you donate from nothing whereas if your diamond you also get 2
Title: Re: Not Really A Ban Request on Master Mark, But Kinda
Post by: Lazyronda on June 29, 2015, 10:49:36 PM
. He has got the richest inventory in the game and not to mention his 1.5b cash stack, why would he give it up for a measly little jewel.
Not according to the statistics
(http://i.imgur.com/GQYN1KM.jpg?1)
Heh
Title: Re: Not Really A Ban Request on Master Mark, But Kinda
Post by: Master Mark on June 29, 2015, 10:58:08 PM
The whole reason that this is dumb is because it's being painted as a bait 'n' switch when in reality it was Clams not paying attention to a very straightforward trade. Everything was completely outlined and I drew attention to the change of trade plans over several lines of trade chat text. Keep in mind he then wrote in the trade chat that he agreed to it, then double confirmed! I guess the result of him not paying attention would be to slap me with a ban because I refuse to trade back?

(http://i.imgur.com/JEZ2bZU.png)(http://i.imgur.com/JEZ2bZU.png)(http://i.imgur.com/JEZ2bZU.png)
Title: Re: Not Really A Ban Request on Master Mark, But Kinda
Post by: PapaRussia on June 29, 2015, 11:16:30 PM
it will probably be in other lotteries to come.
heh

You're killing me here nonsense
Title: Re: Not Really A Ban Request on Master Mark, But Kinda
Post by: Goobie on June 29, 2015, 11:47:02 PM
WELL I only put this up, because Clams wanted me to so just helping a buddy out.
Title: Re: Not Really A Ban Request on Master Mark, But Kinda
Post by: Goobie on June 29, 2015, 11:48:32 PM
No Hate Master
Title: Re: Not Really A Ban Request on Master Mark, But Kinda
Post by: nonSENSE on June 29, 2015, 11:48:42 PM
So, where's Clam's input on all of this?
Title: Re: Not Really A Ban Request on Master Mark, But Kinda
Post by: Master Mark on June 29, 2015, 11:49:45 PM
WELL I only put this up, because Clams wanted me to so just helping a buddy out.

I understand Goobie. But if he had a real problem with it he should have made the post himself. Unless he was avoiding making a post because of the other report he made... regardless, I don't see any reason for there to be a ban request when he is at fault.
Title: Re: Not Really A Ban Request on Master Mark, But Kinda
Post by: Willdy on June 29, 2015, 11:58:38 PM
Mr Steal Yo Clams is viewing the topic, maybe something will come from this! Or we could just ban Mark now? Kappa
Title: Re: Not Really A Ban Request on Master Mark, But Kinda
Post by: Mr Steal Yo Clams on June 30, 2015, 12:00:45 AM
Now I don't want Mark to get banned because most of the time he is a pretty nice guy, I just want to trade back. I was under the belief that I was getting a bundle, not just a skull chat tag. I also asked Goobie to make the post because he got the screenshot which I forgot to take, that's the only reason why. From what Mark said in the trade chat,  in my opinion it did not clearly state that I was getting just the skull. I thought he meant it in a way that the skull is one of the things that is commonly found in the chat tag bundle. I still have all 5 items he traded to me in my inventory and I would be extremely happy if we could just trade back item for items and have that be the end of this.
Title: Re: Not Really A Ban Request on Master Mark, But Kinda
Post by: Master Mark on June 30, 2015, 12:10:34 AM
Now I don't want Mark to get banned because most of the time he is a pretty nice guy, I just want to trade back. I was under the belief that I was getting a bundle, not just a skull chat tag. I also asked Goobie to make the post because he got the screenshot which I forgot to take, that's the only reason why. From what Mark said in the trade chat,  in my opinion it did not clearly state that I was getting just the skull. I thought he meant it in a way that the skull is one of the things that is commonly found in the chat tag bundle. I still have all 5 items he traded to me in my inventory and I would be extremely happy if we could just trade back item for items and have that be the end of this.

I don't want to trade back since I already popped open this limited bundle...
Title: Re: Not Really A Ban Request on Master Mark, But Kinda
Post by: Mr Steal Yo Clams on June 30, 2015, 02:03:22 AM
Well if there is no chance of Mark willingly trading back, I'll just live with it XD. You can close the thread if you want or leave it going. I think I can turn these items for a profit anyways. Hopefully I'll just get lucky next time we have a lottery. (If there is another one) I got the item for 15 tokens basically anyways so I can't really complain when you think about it. Apologizes for getting so heated up to this point, hope it'll breeze over faster then other conflicts have.